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S197 CaptKaos' 2011 S197 LS Swap Build Thread Profile - S197 Mustangs

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@Dave_W that is what I found also. Still need to research the Ford pedal but hopefully the Terminator X can figure it out. Worse case I put the GM pedal in, just need to make a mount.
The last few days we have been trying to get my brothers Truck ready for LS Fest (starts tomorrow) and were having an issue with the Tune after the 4L80E swap we got that sorted out so hopefully this weekend there will more motivation

@ArizonaBOSS yea that did stink. Pulling the engine/trans and reinstalling is the easy part. Sorting out the wiring and all the other pieces that are unknown will be the hurdle.

Anyone have a JPCRacing trans crossmember for a PowerGlide or TH400 that can tell me if there is 3" longer or 3" shorter (relatively speaking) to work with the 4L60E? Trying to figure out if I need to make one or if one already made can be made to work.

@AZS197 THANKS!
 
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Sorry for the delayed posts. Weekend of September 9th: After 9 years of driving my 1987 Truck to LS Fest without issue I had two that had to be sorted out, and one that had to have a solution so I could get home. 1) The fan temp probe for the fans when out driving into the venue and the truck overheated.. Like 240 degrees. we hardwired it to get it home, 2) what I thought was a turbo scavenge pump problem (after replacing at midnight in Beech Bend entrace, it was found to be a shorted relay. I Spent all day trying to find a relay that would work so I could drive home. We made home no issue but had to waiting on the new fan kit.

Back to the Mustang
Weekend of September 16th: Scrounging around looking at the old K-member I found that the lower control arm bolts had a nut on them that would perfectly fit the 3rd bolt for the power steering mount. I had to open up the hole in the AJE crossmember and only the bottom is bolted but it now has a bolt in it now (nut not pictured but it is in there)

In addition to this I got the EPAS wiring harness from Casey at Racecar Services to solve the Electric power steering issues.

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Week of September 26: The new 98-02 F-Body oil pan came in from Pace. It pretty much had everything pan, dipstick, tube, bolts windage tray, pickup tube, and the pan. This definitely will help with ground clearance issues. We got the engine in the air and dropped the truck pan and then installed the new F-body pan. I also cut down the AJE engine mounts where the ears are for mounting to a SBC. Not shown but I hit them with some rattle can black and bolted them back to the motor.

This is where things get interesting... The following night I planned to reinstall the valve train (rockers and pushrods) to check for pushrod length an when rotating the motor over, it would ONLY move 90 degrees. Since it was late I decided to call it a night and pull the pan the next day. The evening we pulled the pan to see if we left something out of place that would keep it from turning over. We ended up pulling everything oil pan related off. Still wouldn't turn. The next evening we pulled the timing cover, with no solution and since it wasn't on an engine stand was proved to be fruitless to determine what the problem was we called it an evening. Since I work in IT and my oncall rotation would tie me up with a project this was delayed for the next weekend.

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Friday September 30th: We have been on the hunt for new wheels/tires for this as the base wheels on this were only 7" wide. So I located a set of what I now know as PP1 Takeoff during the day that my daughter approved of so I headed out to pick them up. So now she has some 19" wheels

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Weekend of October 1st: Bound to determine the issue I played fruit basket turnover in my cramped 2 car garage to remove an engine from a stand and put this one on it so we could see what actually was going on.
We spent a good time discovering this as I wanted my daughter to understand the logic around what was going on. After some evaluation we concluded that the number 2 cylinder (front left looking into the engine bay) was the culprit as it wasn't making it past the same point.

So we pulled the passenger side head to see what the issue was. Keeping is mind this was a pullout motor, that I have had for 11 years that has always been stored inside a conditioned garage... When we got the head off this is what I discovered. Moisture in the cylinder caused some surface rust to appear and a stack of crud was piled above the piston. I sprayed some Liquid Wrench in and scuffed it with a Scotchbrite pad and much of it came off. (see second picture) We were able to turn the motor over but it still had rust in it.

So I filled it up to the edge in vinegar and let it soak for 12 hours. The last pictures shows the Vinegar in the hole.. The last picture is after I went down and checked on it 1 hour later.

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Sunday October 2nd: After we got back from Church we went to investigate the progress/status. Needless to say I was impressed. We rolled the motor up so the piston is level and I filled it to the top. Based on the current results I plan to let it sit and recheck. Optimistic of the outcome, I ordered a new head gasket, and bolts when should be here this week and I plan to recheck and possibly run a hone through it and reseal it back up.

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Monday October 3rd: I talked to Current Perfomance again about the pedals and apparently got the right person via email as they said they had someone local using the 2011 Pedal on the Terminator X running an LS so I asked if they could send the pinouts for the harness I bought and the Mustang. It appears all I need is swap pins 2 and 5 , along with pins 4 and 6. Which will make this process much easier.

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Week of October 9th: Head gasket showed up so that weekend I ran a plate hone through the cylinder and reinstalled the head. We flipped it over and installed the 1998--02 GM F-body oil pan and pickup. After verifying the pushrod length was good we sealed it up ready for the install.

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October 23rd: Liz and I got the motor installed in the Mustang into the AJE cradle. I have to say it went in pretty smoothly. Then we attempted to install the 4L60E. I knew the 4L80e required some tunnel "massaging" and since the 4L60E was physically similar I figured I would need to make room for it but... As of right now it won't fit. I know several Mustang owners swapped over to 4L80E's but no idea what all it took to get it in there. Anyway we got stopped at the partial install as the next day I had a week of training that was going to pause progress for a week, so the trans was left just sitting on jack stands.

I started looking for a shorter Selector shaft since this one was way too long.
Anyone have a post on a 4L80E/4l60E install in a S197? Would love to cheat and see what was required.

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