Electric F-150

[TymeSlayer]

Interesting. I am curious about the towing capabilities in these EVs.

"The electric F-150 – due out in mid-2022 – is expected to cost about half as much to maintain and operate as today’s pickups, Galhortra said ahead of Ford announcing additional production details Thursday at a plant where the vehicle will be produced in Michigan."

Ford's making its electric F-150 a serious work truck in bid to set it apart from Tesla and GM pickups

A Ford executive said it was important to Ford to retain the work reputation of the F-150 and its larger siblings, collectively known as Ford's F-Series, for the electric version.

www.cnbc.com

 

[Fat Boss]

I would totally get an electric F150. I'm just having a hard time convincing myself I need two full size trucks. My 7.3 Powerstroke 4x4 Crew Cab with the 6 Speed manual is enough truck for pretty much everything I ever do.

 

[302BOB]

Sounds like you got a lot of bases covered there FB...............and then some!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[302BOB]

Electric vehicles are slowly making their way onto our landscape....Will gas stations be harder to find than charging stations in the future???..I'm sure I won't be around to worry about that............Son will...He gets the Boss when I leave......................

 

[Bill Pemberton]

Gonna have to change the name to the F-110 or F-220, ha!

 

[TMSBOSS]

220, 221, what ever it takes.

 

[carver]

I'll never give up my Cummins diesel but I have to admit the quietness and massive torque that an EV can produce is seducing !!

 

[302BOB]

Maybe they'll put a solar panel on the roof??......food for thought just got hungrier.................but not getting paid.........................

 

[Grant 302]

Looks like they used the right name for it:

Ford F-150 electric pickup gets a name and a reveal date: Meet the Ford F-150 Lightning

Ford revealed the name of its long-anticipated electric F-150, saying it plans to unveil the vehicle on May 19: Meet the Ford F-150 Lightning.

www.usatoday.com

 

[PatrickStapler]

Will be interesting to see what it’s actual towing and range capabilities are.

 

[Ron McCall]

So...there are thousands and thousands of Ford trucks filling the parking lots of Kentucky Speedway because if a shortage of an electric component and now they want to make the entire truck an electric component??? They better get their supply of electrical components straightened out first! ;-)

 

[blacksheep-1]

I can completely see the hybrid, but as for electrics, I only can picture them as commuter cars of less than about 300 miles, in an urban environment.

 

[ncpeds]

The range of the Donk-E drops like crazy in cold weather. I figure this electric F-150 will be the same.
What a crock.

 

[yotah1]

I can completely see the hybrid, but as for electrics, I only can picture them as commuter cars of less than about 300 miles, in an urban environment.

And that is the problem with today's public opinion of the electric cars. An electric car carries a lot of weight due to the batteries, and you need a lot of batteries to have a lot of range, which adds more weight as range goes up. If you want to be efficient and smart about it, small cars are the worst example possible for an electric application, but people see them in urban environments, being all quiet and everything, and that's all they care about. If you think about it, a small car does not require or really benefit from the torque that electric propulsion provides. I don't see anyone towing their boats with a Fiat 500e ...
On the other hand, large vehicles that are anyway heavy because of towing requirements (brakes, suspensions, tires and wheels, plus big torquey diesel engines) don't suffer as much from the extra weight a battery brings into the equation, and those vehicles are the ones that benefit from all that torque all the time. Plus, a F150 or SuperDuty is already a big platform which offer a ton of square footage in its lower cross section, on the chassis, as the cab is anyways bolted on top of the chassis. So fitting a battery under the car does not reduce the ground clearance much, nor does it raise the driving position, two massive problems you encounter on a normal passenger electric vehicle with the batteries in the floor. Add to this that trucks get a lot more mileage per year than city cars, so the initial CO2 impact of building the batteries is at least spread over more usage each year than Mrs Joe driving to the bakery and the day car 5 times a week in her posh BMW i3 or something similar.

 

[TMSBOSS]

But.....If it cant make the trip without a long "Refuel Stop" why bother??
Has anyone seen a KWh consumption study for an electric truck? How much "Work" do you get from a tank of diesel compared to a full charge? Apples to Apples??? If the answer is no, the question has likely been asked and answered unfavorably.
Can a electric F-250 pull a car in a 24' enclosed trailer from Blackhawk Farms Raceway to Road America approximately 140 miles?? If not, why bother?
The Tesla S has a 75 KWH battery. There are 37.95 KWh in a gallon of diesel. I know the efficiency is not there when converting diesel to usable power, but.... There would have to be a whole lot of inefficiency for the battery to last equal to a tank of fuel. Double or Triple the battery capacity (And Cost) would you come close to range, without refuel/recharge... Maybe. I am finding 15KWh per gallon of diesel when run through a generator from a google search. So, five gallons of diesel may equal the work done by a fully charged battery. You would have to have 7-10 battery packs from the Tesla S to equal the work done by the average diesel pickup refueling. Seems right considering the fuel use on diesel trucks to a sedan.
Nope, I am not an engineer. Just someone trying to boil down the "Info" available and trying to make sense from it.
Electric cars do look good for the urban commuter. Put them all on electric buses........problem solved.

 

[302BOB]

This whole electric change over coming in the future has everyone asking a lot of questions but there are very few answers coming back.That tells me nobody has all the answers right now.....that's putting it politely................

 

[Ron McCall]

What's going to happen when the police and rescue vehicles are forced to convert to electric vehicles? Imagine a crash scene in rural Montana in January and the officer needs to keep the
heat on in the vehicle for hours so as to not freeze to death in -30F conditions. Or sitting with the AC on to not die sitting for hours in 115F temps in Arizona during the summer. As 302BOB says, lots of questions. NOt lots of answers.

Ron

 

[Grant 302]

And that is the problem with today's public opinion of the electric cars.

That’s just ONE problem. They’ve become very polarized as political talking points. Both sides of the extremes are fairly uninformed.

 

[302BOB]

This energy transfer will make some more wealthy....buy more extension cords while you can....they may become scarce ............................................

 

[Grant 302]

Maybe they'll put a solar panel on the roof??

As somebody who uses solar panels to maintain and top-off the cars in my fleet, I think this should be mandated for EVs. Pulling power from the grid is less green than many want to think.