I'm revisiting trying to adapt a S550 M.C to the S197 booster. My question. Do the brake lines from the M.C to the ABS pump HAVE to be hard lines? Can I make -3 AN lines from the M.C to ABS pump??
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I would guess that a "flexible" line would be OK, But you would want to have them made out of the same material that they use for the flex lines running to the calipers. Also would guess you may end up with a slightly more spongy pedal depending and the quality of line and also how much is used. I'm thinking the longer the line the more expansion.I'm revisiting trying to adapt a S550 M.C to the S197 booster. My question. Do the brake lines from the M.C to the ABS pump HAVE to be hard lines? Can I make -3 AN lines from the M.C to ABS pump??
This is my thought too. The Eastwood tool isn't that expensive....I'm thinking the longer the line the more expansion.
You won't be able to make the S197 booster work with the S550 master cylinder. The way the push rod engages the master cylinder plunger is different between the two series. Myself and @2012-Boss have looked at this many different ways. My other friend who bought my 2011 21 Car, adapted a Tilton master cylinder with larger bore diameter to the S197 Booster. But that MC is clocked 45 degrees and required custom hard lines as well.I'm revisiting trying to adapt a S550 M.C to the S197 booster. My question. Do the brake lines from the M.C to the ABS pump HAVE to be hard lines? Can I make -3 AN lines from the M.C to ABS pump??
Any pictures and part#s of the Tilton installation?You won't be able to make the S197 booster work with the S550 master cylinder. The way the push rod engages the master cylinder plunger is different between the two series. Myself and @2012-Boss have looked at this many different ways. My other friend who bought my 2011 21 Car, adapted a Tilton master cylinder with larger bore diameter to the S197 Booster. But that MC is clocked 45 degrees and required custom hard lines as well.
Tread carefully here! Your M/C may produce 2000 PSI. Many hydraulic systems are based on a 4:1 safety factor and your hard lines probably have a burst pressure of around 15,000 PSI. Many of the common AN braided hoses are rated at only 1000PSI. Also, bends and twists in the hose will affect it's performance under pressure.I'm revisiting trying to adapt a S550 M.C to the S197 booster. My question. Do the brake lines from the M.C to the ABS pump HAVE to be hard lines? Can I make -3 AN lines from the M.C to ABS pump??
This type of hose might be adequate but the process and equipment for fabricating , crimping end fittings, and pressure testing is beyond the scope of an average DIY project. Also, I don't think that flexible brake lines can bend sharply enough to accommodate an installation like this.I would guess that a "flexible" line would be OK, But you would want to have them made out of the same material that they use for the flex lines running to the calipers. Also would guess you may end up with a slightly more spongy pedal depending and the quality of line and also how much is used. I'm thinking the longer the line the more expansion.
↑ ↑ THIS ↑ ↑I understand the reluctance to try to bend lines, got it. But. If you buy the bending and universal flaring tool from Eastwood get some practice with cheap lines. You should be able to put together your own hard lines.
This....Any pictures and part#s of the Tilton installation?
The correct direction for the fitting is also very helpful.....so I've heard.The best part about making the perfect flare is having remembered to install the nut on the line before you make the flare been there and done that
The booster is different. In the way it engages the master cylinder, the size and the level of assist provided. If you are considering a swap, I would plan to install a complete S550 M/C and booster. It will require modifying the pedal support and firewall holes slightly, lowering the engine just to install the booster (needs about 3", then can be reset in normal position) and a reworking of the brake feed pipes to the ABS block, S550 ports are on the inside of the M/C, the S197 are outside. I recommend this for a race application, on the street the pedal travel won't make a difference, but then again, we are Track Mustangs Online.
I will ask him to send me some. I don't have any on hand. Will try and get the part list he used, including a proportioning valve and inline brake pressure transducer for his AiM setup.Any pictures and part#s of the Tilton installation?
The longer pedal stroke is different at first, but I’ve found it easier to modulate. The factory 4 pot Brembos were more on/off, where the S550 Brembos have a longer, linear stroke. Much easier to trail brake with.I am back to looking at the 15" 6 piston front upgrade. I have the Goodrich lines, Girodisc rotors and S550 6 piston Brembos. I have done some more reading ( dangerous I know) and am starting to second guess the choice of the S550 calipers over the 2014 GT500 6 piston Brembos due to the differences in volume. It looks like some people don't like the pedal feel with the S197 master cylinder. Is the extra surface area of the pads on the S550 worth the longer softer pedal or should I source a pair of Shelby Brembo calipers?