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Spending my pension on car parts and track fees.
I appreciate that. ThanksIf you were closer I'd do it for you.
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I appreciate that. ThanksIf you were closer I'd do it for you.
FABMAN's link to Kenny Brown is correct. Here it is again:Ron Davis is your friend ( if you don't know a welder)
Not sure if their standard S197 radiator is triple-pass - don't see the baffle in the right-side tank. I'm pretty sure they's be able to convert the off-the-shelf part to triple-pass if you ask.and one for Ron
No, those are just assembly welds where the different pieces join together.Not sure if their standard S197 radiator is triple-pass - don't see the baffle in the right-side tank. I'm pretty sure they's be able to convert the off-the-shelf part to triple-pass if you ask.
On further inspection, maybe the baffle is there, just done differently than Fabman's example & Kenny Brown's? Best to call and ask to make sure if you go with them.
The GT500 fan/shroud setup should definitely be on the list of cooling mods.Hello Everyone, Figured I would give the group an update:
New OEM ford water pump installed. Coolant system bled. Ambient temps of mid 90's at buttonwillow and.....still able to get the car to "overheat" (coolant temps in block reached 235°F and kept climbing but I let off). Really bummed. I am wondering now if I just have bad data. Although I do feel the car lose power as it heats up.
Does anyone have coolant temperature data for the hot side of the radiator? Cold side of the radiator? INSIDE the engine? I am under the assumption that the coolant going into the radiator is the same temperature as the coolant in the engine block. But perhaps this is not correct.
Did I notice ANY difference between the two pumps? I think maybe. Cooling seemed marginally better (maybe 10%) with the ford pump. But it was nowhere near the "cure-all" that I was hoping it would be. At this point I am going to try removing the grille at the next track event and see if there is any change.
Other than that, I am lost. Might try that FRPP fan shroud.
Any ideas?
Thanks everyone
The theory being, the extra "flaps" in the GT500 shroud help reduce pressure at the aft end of the radiator right?The GT500 fan/shroud setup should definitely be on the list of cooling mods.
yes its kind of like louvers in the hood to let air pass through. The fan also has different blades in both number and size. Its a 2 speed fan, I have mine wired on high only and have it on a toggle so its only on when I want it on like in the paddock or driving slowly. At speed the spinning blades just block the air flow and that's not helpful.The theory being, the extra "flaps" in the GT500 shroud help reduce pressure at the aft end of the radiator right?
Are there any other aftermarket options that would better that people are aware of? The gt500 shroud doesn't seem THAT much more free flowing than OEM...
Somewhere I have a pic of the stock and GT500 fans side by side.....if I can find that pic I'll post it up.The gt500 shroud doesn't seem THAT much more free flowing than OEM...
Still have AC system...sadly that's a non-negotiable for now. LOL. I have pretty decent ducting that I fabbed up. Air has very few places to go other than straight through the radiator.yes its kind of like louvers in the hood to let air pass through. The fan also has different blades in both number and size. Its a 2 speed fan, I have mine wired on high only and have it on a toggle so its only on when I want it on like in the paddock or driving slowly. At speed the spinning blades just block the air flow and that's not helpful.
Sorry if this was mentioned before but....does the car have the A/C condenser still?
Adequate ducting to the front of the radiator?
A/C makes it a lot harder....any hole or leak in the ducting is a path for the air to go around the radiator.Still have AC system...sadly that's a non-negotiable for now. LOL. I have pretty decent ducting that I fabbed up. Air has very few places to go other than straight through the radiator.
I do have a big oil cooler mounted in front of the radiator.
Man you aren't kidding. Between oil cooler lines, power steering lines, AC condenser lines and brake cooling ducts, it took me honestly 10+ hours to fab up ducting. I used a plethora of HVAC aluminum foil tape as well. It's not perfect, but it's easily 50% better than before.A/C makes it a lot harder....any hole or leak in the ducting is a path for the air to go around the radiator.
I'd try to seal that up as tight as possible with duct tape or whatever.
Well you have to get it in there, through there and outta there.Man you aren't kidding. Between oil cooler lines, power steering lines, AC condenser lines and brake cooling ducts, it took me honestly 10+ hours to fab up ducting. I used a plethora of HVAC aluminum foil tape as well. It's not perfect, but it's easily 50% better than before.
Which makes me think it's not an airflow issue......
Partially close or partially open….pretty much the same thing. You can boil it in water with a thermometer and see if it opens/closes when it’s supposed to or….they are cheap enough you can just replace it. Id just take it out right before your next track day and try running without it.Oil cooler is hanging from the front crash bar, maybe 3ish inches fore of the AC condenser.
Good point on the tstat. Stuck partially closed you're thinking?