Bill Pemberton
0ld Ford Automotive Racing Terror
I don't know why everyone is so concerned about the weight, it seems the 2024 Clydesdale is quite good at stopping and, er, turning.
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Those tires must be super grippy. But like most track performance street tires they will give up after 3 laps on track and cycle out performance wise in 3-4 sessions. Maybe not. The acceleration numbers to 60 indicate a great launch which again goes to the tires. Very capable car, would like to see them on track against GT350s on the same tire.I don't know why everyone is so concerned about the weight, it seems the 2024 Clydesdale is quite good at stopping and, er, turning.
Brakes add weight, which requires more brake, which requires bigger wheels, which adds weight.....in 2024 how are these cars not made with Aluminum doors? Or 100% aluminum? Sure isn't material cost due to the F150 volume. Lighter is safer, more efficient, less consuming. We keep going the wrong direction. Goal should be lighter, smaller brakes, smaller wheels etc. We live in a super sized world I guess. I still swear my 96 Escort had more interior space than my Mustang.Those tires must be super grippy. But like most track performance street tires they will give up after 3 laps on track and cycle out performance wise in 3-4 sessions. Maybe not. The acceleration numbers to 60 indicate a great launch which again goes to the tires. Very capable car, would like to see them on track against GT350s on the same tire.
Sorry, but weight in a racecar is never a good thing. Do lateral acceleration calculations for given weights and given tire grip. Then see what the speeds around a corner of a given radius is are with those constants. Then calculate the acceleration of those differing weights off the corner and up to the point where drag becomes the greater impediment. You will find that lighter is always better. Weight distribution can help mask deficiencies but two cars with the same power, tires, suspension and brakes, the lighter car will always win out.Too many of those diet commercials on TV........"I lost 80lbs in 2 days" and $80 in 2 minutes!!!!!!!!!!!!........weight in a race car can be a plus if it is distributived correctectly...........spellcheck going crazy...me too...............
The "build your car" workflow on the Ford website tells you everything you need to know about Dark Horse. The only comfort option the Dark Horse seems to be missing is a hot tub. Making the "performance" seats an option tells us that the styling department is running the show. As you say, Steve, it really looks like a "very good touring street car".Fat, very difficult to tune. Very difficult to remove screens, mag ride, dumb exhaust. This is a very good touring street car, but will be limited as a true track/race car. Save your money and buy a Dark Horse R or S if you want a track/race car with modification/improvement capability. The buy in will be higher but to get the level of performance/safety you will spen more and have a lot more headaches trying to modify a street version.
Agreed, A truck scale is set up to be accurate with something over 25.000lbs. Playing with some load cells at work and boy does it take some setting up!Darkhorse is heavier than the GTs because of the coolers, add oil capacity, heavier brakes, hubs etc. But I have to admit they are comparable to the GT350s and my PP2 car. That being said do we really weigh cars on truck scale?`
I've seen issues with the GT350 engine, but I haven't seen any increase in cracked snouts on the GT350's over regular 5.0's and I've only seen them on supercharged cars.Saw a Dark Horse sitting next to a GT350 at the local cars and coffee here in wonderful downtown Columbia, TN. I wasn't sure which one I'd pick. Probably the Dark Horse because it has a cross plane crank. But the brakes look identical and a number of other features. The all glass dash is not my thing, I like gauges dang it. The number of cracked/broken crankshaft snouts on the GT350 has scared me off. Pfft, none of that really matters when I'm not even a buyer (goes wandering back to his stickaxle machine...)