The Times They Are A-Charging

[JDee]

Watch Tesla Model S Plaid Vs Shelby GT500 In Roll Races

Here is a little bit of a different roll-type drag race with a Tesla Model S Plaid against a 1,100hp Shelby GT500, which appears to be a bit quicker.

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Still won't be a customer for a whizzer car...
A kid I know peripherally has one, he takes long ass drives in it just to go somewhere only to turn around to come home. Has to stop twice to plug in which I gather takes an hour or so. He seems to think he's not adding any crud to the environment doing this. I guess the schools told him they get electricity for free out of pixie dust. And apparently nukes have no environmental footprint. Wait for that last one to come home...

 

[Coz]

Ford Performance Eluminator is an electric crate motor.

Ford Performance Eluminator Is An Electric Crate Motor

One of the cool things that Ford has done for many years is sell crate motors from some of its iconic classic cars all the…

www.slashgear.com

ELUMINATOR™ MACH E ELECTRIC MOTOR

ELUMINATOR™ MACH E ELECTRIC MOTOR |Ford Performance Parts

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[VoodooBoss]

Hopefully they offer a battery pack to go with it.

 

[Norm Peterson]

At first glance, having 300-ish HP and torque in a 200 lb package sounds intriguing.

The one-speed drive at 9:1 reduction, not so much. Or the battery weight and space requirements if you were going to insert this motor into something Miata-size.


Norm

 

[VoodooBoss]

Or a Porsche Boxster, or using multiple motors.

 

[xr7]

Still won't be a customer for a whizzer car...
A kid I know peripherally has one, he takes long ass drives in it just to go somewhere only to turn around to come home. Has to stop twice to plug in which I gather takes an hour or so. He seems to think he's not adding any crud to the environment doing this. I guess the schools told him they get electricity for free out of pixie dust. And apparently nukes have no environmental footprint. Wait for that last one to come home...

We've had people complaining about the amount of acreage needed for the windmills. Nuclear has a much smaller foot print is their claim. Yes they take up less acreage but there's this other footprint that nobody has dealt with.
We are going to be getting some new wind mills, 4.2 mega watt, 665 feet tall. 446 ft diameter sweep for the blades, go big or go home.
Oh yea, 1000 cubic yards of concrete in the base, about 3.5 million pounds, probably a lot of rebar too. Concrete plants and mixer drivers will be busy.

 

[TMSBOSS]

Ironically the real cost in the EV is not the motor. Price a battery pack. Sit down first.
Batteries are one of the more expensive components in an electric vehicle. And if you need to replace a battery after your warranty expires, it's helpful to know how much you'll be spending out of pocket. Currently, the average cost to replace a battery is $5,500.Mar 26, 2021
Quoting the cost of the EV "Motor" is a kin to quoting the cost of a transmission in a fossil fueled car. Not a drop in the bucket but also not the big cost in most vehicles.

 

[JDee]

Ironically the real cost in the EV is not the motor. Price a battery pack. Sit down first.
Batteries are one of the more expensive components in an electric vehicle. And if you need to replace a battery after your warranty expires, it's helpful to know how much you'll be spending out of pocket. Currently, the average cost to replace a battery is $5,500.Mar 26, 2021
Quoting the cost of the EV "Motor" is a kin to quoting the cost of a transmission in a fossil fueled car. Not a drop in the bucket but also not the big cost in most vehicles.

Any idea how many miles/months a battery pack might last? I expect operating in winter weather is going to shorten battery life as well due to heating loads?

 

[Bill Pemberton]

TMS hits a common point, but as he noted the price ( of a batt. pack ) is not that bad compared to the cost of major components on a petroleum based machine. It is likely to go down in cost as more and more EVs hit the market, but I still wish we could hear more about plans for disposal as two areas I have lived needed to spend large sums for lead acid ( battery based ) cleanup. Sure batteries have changed but disposal is still going to be an issue in future years and to be truly responsible we need to have plans for corralling the worn out products. I could be wrong , but I just have not heard much about getting rid of the old batteries except maybe a company in Northern Nevada.

 

[xr7]

Ironically the real cost in the EV is not the motor. Price a battery pack. Sit down first.
Batteries are one of the more expensive components in an electric vehicle. And if you need to replace a battery after your warranty expires, it's helpful to know how much you'll be spending out of pocket. Currently, the average cost to replace a battery is $5,500.Mar 26, 2021
Quoting the cost of the EV "Motor" is a kin to quoting the cost of a transmission in a fossil fueled car. Not a drop in the bucket but also not the big cost in most vehicles.

The other question for battery replacement is the labor cost to replace the battery. With the battery in the floor pan of the car what do you have to remove to get it out, hopefully there's a plan for this.

 

[ChrisM]

Ironically the real cost in the EV is not the motor. Price a battery pack. Sit down first.
Batteries are one of the more expensive components in an electric vehicle. And if you need to replace a battery after your warranty expires, it's helpful to know how much you'll be spending out of pocket. Currently, the average cost to replace a battery is $5,500.Mar 26, 2021
Quoting the cost of the EV "Motor" is a kin to quoting the cost of a transmission in a fossil fueled car. Not a drop in the bucket but also not the big cost in most vehicles.

Counterpoint: the joy of sniffing your own farts as you win a drag race against those Gaia-killing GT500s - priceless

 

[Coz]

Ford Mustang Mach-E GT tests its 1/4-mile mettle

Now that Ford has started delivering the Performance variant of the Mustang Mach-E all-electric crossover, the GT configuration is heading to the drag strip to test its mettle in the all-too-common proving ground for performance vehicles. On the heels of taking delivery of their own Mach-E GT in...

www.teslarati.com

 

[blacksheep-1]

For everyone but Tesla that is likely true. I bet 90% of the current Tesla sales would still happen if the subsidies went away. Those cars are bought on emotion, not practicality.

What I find amusing is telling people that it's good that there are subsidies for this new technology, since it's only been around for over a hundred years- and depending on your definition of electric car it might be closer to 150 years old. Nearly everyone I talk to does not know that the history of the electrics predates the internal combustion horseless carriages.

My dad is probably one of only a handful of people in the world that is converting an electric car to run on gas, but his is a hundred years old.

Tesla is basically funded by the carbon credits they get from other auto manufacturers, some time in the the future, they will actually have to produce a competitive car for the market.

 

[TymeSlayer]

Here's a local story I heard about from my wife. Seems this guy found a place to rent a Tesla because it was "cool". Now I'm sure the EV rental instructed him on how to recharge the car but after running the batteries down, it was left on the side of the road. When they returned the following morning, the car was torched, not from the batteries mind you but someone actually poured gas or some other flammable fluid on it and lit it on fire. There some irony in there somewhere!

 

[blacksheep-1]

Tesla's dirty little secret: Its net profit doesn't come from selling cars

Tesla posted its first full year of net income in 2020 -- but not because of sales to its customers.

www.cnn.com

 

[xr7]

And then we have this from Ford. Seems like the "logical" solution for towing, right???????

Ford F-150 Electric Pickup May Get Newly Patented Range Extender in Its Bed

It looks deceptively like a toolbox, but it could be used to increase the range of the upcoming electric F-150 pickup truck.

www.caranddriver.com

 

[TMSBOSS]

LOL Recharges the battery with a small motor. If its generating power with a small motor, it will generate a small amount of power. Snake Oil???

 

[xr7]

So this my idea for the latest special edition F150. Take this new EV F150 Lightning and offer a Harley-Davidson edition. It would include a HD V-Twin powered genset with no mufflers mounted in the bed.

 

[TMSBOSS]

Or the V Twin Harley. You can ride it to a hotel while you wait on your truck to be towed and recharged.

 

[Fat Boss]

Tesla is basically funded by the carbon credits they get from other auto manufacturers, some time in the the future, they will actually have to produce a competitive car for the market.

Actually they don't. At some point soon EV's will become a commodity and Tesla will move on to the big rigs and grid scale electrical storage. There's plenty of money to be made changing the world, trying to compete in a commodity market- not so much.